A reminder that targas are the only true form of convertible

"Nauraushaun" (nauraushaun12) 04/13/2019 at 17:34 • Filed to: None

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I know what you’re thinking. !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! , c reaky leaky targa tops are old news, no longer relevant. Of a bygone era.

But how come...all the sweet new convertibles are modelled off the same style? That slick as hell side profile with the full rollover bar, keeping the lines of a fixed roof coupe? Rather than the dumpy flat deck you get with a traditional folding soft top?

Hrm.

You ever see one o’ them Mercedes cabriolets with the wind deflector up? As if they’re desperately trying to graft on the benefits of a targa to an inferior design. Silly.

Don’t forget targas :)

not for canada - australian in disguise > Nauraushaun 04/13/2019 at 17:43

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This is a good take. As someone who slightly hates convertibles with every fibre of my being, something about targas speak to me. Even if they really aren’t much different from regular convertibles. Especially the 911 Targa, which is both the best looking 911 and the best looking modern Porsche full stop.

I guess it’s because I hate convertibles for 2 reasons, 1. I live in a frozen tundra hellscape, and 2. I don’t like the way they look. Targas fix at least one of those issues.

404 - User No Longer Available > Nauraushaun 04/13/2019 at 17:47

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Doub le humps FTW

SiennaMan > Nauraushaun 04/13/2019 at 17:52

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I tend to agree with this take.  I like convertibles well enough,  but I would love a targa top.  

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Nauraushaun 04/13/2019 at 17:56

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The trueness revolution would be a hatchback with a targa top. I’d love it If my Convertible Rabbit could also have the benefits of a hatchback. I guess the Wrangler is the closest thing you can get. 

Honeybunchesofgoats > Nauraushaun 04/13/2019 at 18:02

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Even though they look cool, the single best aspect of a convertible is the visibility. I can’t imagine ever giving that up if I had the choice between the two. 

Nauraushaun > Honeybunchesofgoats 04/13/2019 at 18:07

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Haha, really? I suppose you’re right. I drove an NA MX-5 recently which was my first time in a true convertible. You turn around to look for traffic and there’s just...no car.

Rollcage in this instance but that’s pretty minimal.

I make do without that visibility. I think it’s fine as long as you keep in mind where your blind spots are. And I think it’s fair to say that visibility in a convertible with the roof up is usually as bad as any car on the market. No rear quarter windows.

SmugAardvark > Nauraushaun 04/13/2019 at 18:08

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I’m 100% in Camp Targa. The wonderful wind-in-your-hair feeling of a convertible without giving up the structural integrity or beautiful lines of a coupe.

Nauraushaun > SiennaMan 04/13/2019 at 18:08

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Best when you have a garage so you can leave the roof off. It is a bit of a fumble ;)

Nauraushaun > not for canada - australian in disguise 04/13/2019 at 18:11

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I thought this might come up. It does look glorious. But I’m not sure I agree with the amount of complexity they had to add to make it look like a simple targa. Hence why I didn’t mention it in this post.

Glad it exists though.

Nauraushaun > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 04/13/2019 at 18:13

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Hmmmm. The Smart Roadster can be had with a wagony thing and a targa roof. So can the Nissan EXA.

But that’s not quite what you mean.

The big ass Veloster sun roof is ballpark.

I see what you mean though and I agree. Would be a cool differentiator - a cheap, spacious economy car that’s also fun

Chuckles > Honeybunchesofgoats 04/13/2019 at 18:18

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Spot on. Safety be damned, you can't get the same open air feeling in a Targa. It's just a glorified sunroof.

AestheticsInMotion > Honeybunchesofgoats 04/13/2019 at 18:20

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Yep. Dropping the top and having a 3 60° view is the best part of convertibles 

Discerning > not for canada - australian in disguise 04/13/2019 at 18:36

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For whatever reason, I hate every single targa 911 ever made.

I’m 99% sure it’s the ugly rear window and the ruined profile and the added weight and.....

Just Jeepin' > Nauraushaun 04/13/2019 at 18:41

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The del Sol was the perfect targa. Slotted into the trunk, huge trunk for transporting whatever you wanted  when no roof in there, roll-down rear window offered plenty of visibility.

Plus that VTEC yo.

Nauraushaun > Just Jeepin' 04/13/2019 at 18:54

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You’re so right. Compared to my MR2 it has a bigger trunk and more practical roof, and the roll down window! Shame it’s FWD, but the roof is just right.

And no crazy complicated folding mechanisms. I’d say the trans top thing isn’t too bad for complication

Nauraushaun > SmugAardvark 04/13/2019 at 18:55

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:)

Kindre d spirits

Honeybunchesofgoats > Nauraushaun 04/13/2019 at 18:58

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You get really used to being able to turn your head and see at 4/8 o’clock. 

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Nauraushaun 04/13/2019 at 19:09

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Give me a RWD, 4 cylinder turbo, Toyota Z3 Targa  Coupe please*

*with a Toyota Drivetrain.

Nauraushaun > Chuckles 04/13/2019 at 19:22

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This is true. The MR2 in particular has quite a small pair of openings . The 4 seater Z31/Z32 had a bigger open area.

Nauraushaun > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 04/13/2019 at 19:24

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I’m sure you’re not the only one crying out for this. I’m sure it’s the next big market segment after SUVs die down

Nauraushaun > 404 - User No Longer Available 04/13/2019 at 19:26

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Maybe the humps are just trying to graft the targa-style bits to a regular ‘vert!

Chuckles > Nauraushaun 04/13/2019 at 19:32

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Don't get me wrong, I love a nice Targa. It's just not the same experience as a true convertible. And if you really want the open air experience, try sitting in the backseat of a larger convertible. My dad has owned a few Sebrings, and even in a car as uninspiring as that, it's fun to ride in the back. 

SiennaMan > Nauraushaun 04/13/2019 at 20:24

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I could see that, although that's the other great thing,  a solid hardtop for winter..

C62030 > Nauraushaun 04/13/2019 at 21:41

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This is the only completely correct opinion.

phenotyp > Just Jeepin' 04/13/2019 at 23:23

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I think you mean 914.

:)

Nauraushaun > C62030 04/14/2019 at 01:34

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:)

Nauraushaun > SiennaMan 04/14/2019 at 01:35

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That’s it. Good for keeping heat in, cold out. Better against thieves than a soft top. More durable and feels better quality (glass vs cloth).

Nauraushaun > Chuckles 04/14/2019 at 01:37

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It sounds...blustery.

I saw a Sebring yesterday. In Australia! Who would?